Trials day 1. Johnson in lead but not by enough

Trials Day 1 for women

These results look familiar because these are almost exactly your National results. Top 8 are the same. The same over scoring at Nationals was ten fold here and mostly in favor of keeping Nastia Liukin in the running for an AA spot she does not deserve.

Take these routines to the Olympics and Shawn Johnson is leading by a heck of a lot more then .500 so why does USA-Gymnastics keep over scoring Nastia Liukin to the point where even every four year gym fans are noticing?

Nastia is a nice kid but this has nothing to do with nice. If Nastia had not messed up bars Marta Karolyi would have had her winning both Nationals and Trials. It just isn’t fair and it is not a very nice way to treat your World Champion either.

They did this to Shannon Miller back in the 90’s. They did it to Kristin Maloney back in the late 90’s and now they are doing this to Shawn. What do these three gymnasts have in common? They have the results to back up the gymnastics. These gymnasts went on to success at World and the Olympics where as their counter parts while having success it never measured the success of the three mentioned above. Kristen never won a medal but she proved herself for four years. While Atler got the glory Kristen got the results.

Maybe I shouldn’t care. I can’t change this.

Here are some , You should know’s.

:Jana Bieger out scored both Bridget Sloan and Shayla Worley on bars
: Chellsie Memmel was dinged two tenths because the judges said her Jam was not landed in a handstand
:Chellsie had a 6.9 A score on beam
:Shayla competed only bars and beam and was in obvious pain all night long
:Randy Stageberg nailed floor
:Corrie Lothrop was under scored. Getting these scores with no extra help from the judges.

Meet Results
Women – SR
Competition I
6/19/2008 – 6/20/2008

 

Rank Num Name
Gym
Vault Bars Beam Floor AA
1 108 Shawn Johnson
Chows
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

6.500
9.450
__.___
15.950
1

6.400
9.300
__.___
15.700
3

6.900
9.350
__.___

16.250
1


6.600
9.500
__.___
16.100
1

64.000
1

2 110 Nastia Liukin

WOGA
 

A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

5.500
9.500
__.___

15.000
5


7.700
9.000
__.___
16.700
1

6.600
9.500
__.___
16.100
2


6.100
9.600
__.___
15.700
2

63.500
2

3 112 Chellsie Memmel
M-n-M
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

5.500
9.300
__.___

14.800
8T


6.800
9.350
__.___
16.150
2

6.900
9.100
__.___
16.000
3


6.100
9.300
-0.100
15.300
5

62.250
3

4 115 Samantha Peszek
DeVeaus
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

5.800
9.300
__.___

15.100
3T


6.200
9.100
__.___
15.300
7

6.600
9.200
__.___
15.800
4


6.400
9.250
__.___
15.650
3

61.850
4

5 105 Ivana Hong
GAGE
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

5.800
9.000
__.___

14.800
8T


6.600
8.600
__.___
15.200
8

6.700
9.000
__.___
15.700
5


6.000
9.150
__.___
15.150
8

60.850
5

6 122 Jana Bieger
Biegers
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

5.500
9.100
__.___

14.600
15T


6.600
9.050
__.___
15.650
4

6.500
8.750
__.___
15.250
7


6.100
8.800
-0.300
14.600
13

60.100
6

7 109 Mattie Larson
All Olympia
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

5.800
9.000
__.___

14.800
8T


6.100
9.000
__.___
15.100
9

6.000
8.400
__.___
14.400
12T


6.000
9.250
__.___
15.250
6

59.550
7

8 111 Corrie Lothrop
Hills
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

5.800
9.100
__.___

14.900
7


6.100
8.850
__.___
14.950
11

5.900
8.700
__.___
14.600
11


5.900
9.050
__.___
14.950
9T

59.400
8

9 103 Chelsea Davis
Texas Dreams
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

5.500
9.200
__.___

14.700
12T


5.900
9.100
__.___
15.000
10

5.800
8.950
__.___
14.750
10


5.900
9.050
-0.100
14.850
11

59.300
9

10 102 Olivia Courtney
Orlando Metro
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

5.800
8.900
__.___

14.700
12T


5.600
8.800
__.___
14.400
13

6.000
7.650
-0.100
13.550
17


5.800
8.950
__.___
14.750
12

57.400
10

11 120 Randy Stageberg
Excalibur
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

5.800
8.950
__.___

14.750
11


5.400
8.050
__.___
13.450
16

5.900
8.000
__.___
13.900
14T


6.000
9.200
__.___
15.200
7

57.300
11

12 101 Mackenzie Caquatto
Aerials
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

5.800
9.150
__.___

14.950
6


5.900
8.550
__.___
14.450
12

5.600
8.200
__.___
13.800
16


5.600
8.400
-0.100
13.900
18

57.100
12

13 107 Alaina Johnson
Texas East
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

5.000
8.800
__.___

13.800
17


6.000
8.100
__.___
14.100
14

5.600
8.300
__.___
13.900
14T


5.600
8.650
__.___
14.250
16T

56.050
13

14 118 Alicia Sacramone
Brestyan
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

6.300
9.600
__.___

15.900
2


0.000
0.000
__.___
0.000
17*

6.500
9.150
__.___
15.650
6


6.200
9.500
-0.300
15.400
4

46.950
14

15 119 Bridget Sloan
Sharps
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

0.000
0.000
__.___

0.000
19


6.700
8.900
__.___
15.600
5

6.100
8.750
__.___
14.850
8


6.100
9.050
-0.600
14.550
14

45.000
15

16 124 Shayla Worley
Orlando Metro
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

5.500
9.100
__.___

14.600
15T


6.700
8.700
__.___
15.400
6

6.100
8.800
-0.100
14.800
9


0.000
0.000
__.___
0.000
19

44.800
16

17 117 Britney Ranzy
Excalibur
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

5.800
9.300
__.___

15.100
3T


5.400
8.300
__.___
13.700
15

0.000
0.000
__.___
0.000
19


5.700
8.700
-0.100
14.300
15

43.100
17

18 104 Darling Hill
Will Moor
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

5.500
9.150
__.___

14.650
14


0.000
0.000
__.___
0.000
17*

5.600
7.400
__.___
13.000
18


5.800
9.150
__.___
14.950
9T

42.600
18

19 123 Amber Trani
Parkettes
 
A:
B:
ND:
Final:
Place:

5.800
7.450
__.___

13.250
18


0.000
0.000
__.___
0.000
17*

6.000
8.400
__.___
14.400
12T


5.600
8.650
__.___
14.250
16T

41.900
19

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10 Comments

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10 responses to “Trials day 1. Johnson in lead but not by enough

  1. shergymrag

    Shawn and Nastia are both overscored at this point. It’s not about making sure Nastia wins, it’s about making sure the top two spots go to both of them in either order. They are locks for the team but the powers that be don’t want anybody else sneaking into those spots. They can always turn around and say somebody who might sneak in “isn’t ready” at camp but that would not go over well with the media. It’s not treating a world champion badly to make sure she gets an official “guaranteed” spot on the Olympic team. And Nastia is a world champ too, anyway.

  2. gymnastics08

    Sorry I disagree and I will never agree with you.

    Regardless it is fixing this competition.

    Nastia being rightfully scored would most put her in 3rd place, possibly even as far down as 4. She would still be chosen for this team.

    I am 100% against fixing this competition. The rules mean you do not have to fix it.

  3. audgator

    Yeah I think fixing the competition is complete bull. First off, who cares if Shawn or Nastia mess up and Chellsie earns one of the automatics? All three are going to be on the team…

    My guess is since Shawn and Nastia have the highest reputations, USAG wants to keep it that way.

  4. gymnastics08

    Exactly AUdgator. We all know Nastia is on this team so fixing scores does nothing but annoy me.lol

  5. Jen

    I completely agree with you, everyone knows Shawn and Nastia were gonna be named to the team, so why boost up Nastia’s scores. I don’t think even her best floor routine deserves a 15.7, and her cowboyed dismount on bars is absolutely horrible.

    Boosting the start values on two events does not make you an all-arounder. I would prefer seeing Chellsie (who I realllly don’t like) as the second all-around, she at least a true all-around competitor.

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  7. bettycoltrane

    I have a burning question that I haven’t seen addressed on all the posts of over-scoring Nastia- how do we know it won’t happen at the Olympics??? I thought she was generously scored at Worlds, and people always float around comments like, “xxx has experience at Worlds, and international judges just like her.” Are we just presuming judging will be impartial at Worlds without having any reason to believe that it will actually be so?

  8. shergymrag

    “I will never agree with you.”

    It’s not my policy. It’s just my opinion of what I think is going on. I did not say that I supported this view nor did I mean to imply that I did.

    I do believe that if I was Shawn or Nastia, I wouldn’t feel that being handed an “official” spot on the team was bad treatment. Both of them would have to be idiots if they didn’t already know they were on the team anyway. Everybody else knows it.

    I do believe they are both overscored. Why overscore them? In case of a freak fall for Shawn or a not so freak fall for Nastia. 2004 Courtney McCool got the second spot instead of Carly due to the normally solid Carly going splat. Everybody knew Carly was still a lock though and many people felt Courtney was a good choice anyway. At the Olympics, Courtney ended up not contributing like people thought she would. Maybe with a little extra time at camp and no locked spot for CM, somebody else would have been chosen in her place.

    My point is, if they make sure Nastia and Shawn get those two spots that they are already going to get, they don’t have to end up taking somebody that they might rather not take. Yeah, it’s fixing the competition but that’s my interpretation of what they’re up to.

  9. TCO

    They should honor the audience, the competitors and the sport by being honest.

  10. realityblues

    Nastia is my favorite gymnast but even I can say she was overscored.

    If she makes mistakes she should be deducted for them.
    This is US trials so I get there will be some over scoring but the crowd kind of gasped when Nastia’s bars routine was scored so high on night two. My section was pretty shocked and they had been cheering loudly for Nastia all night.

    There are going to be some upset gymnasts in China when these types of scores do not happen.

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