These results look familiar because these are almost exactly your National results. Top 8 are the same. The same over scoring at Nationals was ten fold here and mostly in favor of keeping Nastia Liukin in the running for an AA spot she does not deserve.
Take these routines to the Olympics and Shawn Johnson is leading by a heck of a lot more then .500 so why does USA-Gymnastics keep over scoring Nastia Liukin to the point where even every four year gym fans are noticing?
Nastia is a nice kid but this has nothing to do with nice. If Nastia had not messed up bars Marta Karolyi would have had her winning both Nationals and Trials. It just isn’t fair and it is not a very nice way to treat your World Champion either.
They did this to Shannon Miller back in the 90’s. They did it to Kristin Maloney back in the late 90’s and now they are doing this to Shawn. What do these three gymnasts have in common? They have the results to back up the gymnastics. These gymnasts went on to success at World and the Olympics where as their counter parts while having success it never measured the success of the three mentioned above. Kristen never won a medal but she proved herself for four years. While Atler got the glory Kristen got the results.
Maybe I shouldn’t care. I can’t change this.
Here are some , You should know’s.
:Jana Bieger out scored both Bridget Sloan and Shayla Worley on bars
: Chellsie Memmel was dinged two tenths because the judges said her Jam was not landed in a handstand
:Chellsie had a 6.9 A score on beam
:Shayla competed only bars and beam and was in obvious pain all night long
:Randy Stageberg nailed floor
:Corrie Lothrop was under scored. Getting these scores with no extra help from the judges.
Women – SR
Competition I
6/19/2008 – 6/20/2008
| Rank | Num | Name Gym |
Vault | Bars | Beam | Floor | AA | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 108 | Shawn Johnson Chows |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
6.500 9.450 __.___ 15.950 1 |
6.400 9.300 __.___ 15.700 3 |
6.900 9.350 __.___ 16.250 |
6.600 9.500 __.___ 16.100 1 |
64.000 |
|
| 2 | 110 | Nastia Liukin
WOGA |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
5.500 9.500 __.___ 15.000 |
7.700 9.000 __.___ 16.700 1 |
6.600 |
6.100 9.600 __.___ 15.700 2 |
63.500 |
|
| 3 | 112 | Chellsie Memmel M-n-M |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
5.500 9.300 __.___ 14.800 |
6.800 9.350 __.___ 16.150 2 |
6.900 |
6.100 9.300 -0.100 15.300 5 |
62.250 |
|
| 4 | 115 | Samantha Peszek DeVeaus |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
5.800 9.300 __.___ 15.100 |
6.200 9.100 __.___ 15.300 7 |
6.600 |
6.400 9.250 __.___ 15.650 3 |
61.850 |
|
| 5 | 105 | Ivana Hong GAGE |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
5.800 9.000 __.___ 14.800 |
6.600 8.600 __.___ 15.200 8 |
6.700 |
6.000 9.150 __.___ 15.150 8 |
60.850 |
|
| 6 | 122 | Jana Bieger Biegers |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
5.500 9.100 __.___ 14.600 |
6.600 9.050 __.___ 15.650 4 |
6.500 |
6.100 8.800 -0.300 14.600 13 |
60.100 |
|
| 7 | 109 | Mattie Larson All Olympia |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
5.800 9.000 __.___ 14.800 |
6.100 9.000 __.___ 15.100 9 |
6.000 |
6.000 9.250 __.___ 15.250 6 |
59.550 |
|
| 8 | 111 | Corrie Lothrop Hills |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
5.800 9.100 __.___ 14.900 |
6.100 8.850 __.___ 14.950 11 |
5.900 |
5.900 9.050 __.___ 14.950 9T |
59.400 |
|
| 9 | 103 | Chelsea Davis Texas Dreams |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
5.500 9.200 __.___ 14.700 |
5.900 9.100 __.___ 15.000 10 |
5.800 |
5.900 9.050 -0.100 14.850 11 |
59.300 |
|
| 10 | 102 | Olivia Courtney Orlando Metro |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
5.800 8.900 __.___ 14.700 |
5.600 8.800 __.___ 14.400 13 |
6.000 |
5.800 8.950 __.___ 14.750 12 |
57.400 |
|
| 11 | 120 | Randy Stageberg Excalibur |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
5.800 8.950 __.___ 14.750 |
5.400 8.050 __.___ 13.450 16 |
5.900 |
6.000 9.200 __.___ 15.200 7 |
57.300 |
|
| 12 | 101 | Mackenzie Caquatto Aerials |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
5.800 9.150 __.___ 14.950 |
5.900 8.550 __.___ 14.450 12 |
5.600 |
5.600 8.400 -0.100 13.900 18 |
57.100 |
|
| 13 | 107 | Alaina Johnson Texas East |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
5.000 8.800 __.___ 13.800 |
6.000 8.100 __.___ 14.100 14 |
5.600 |
5.600 8.650 __.___ 14.250 16T |
56.050 |
|
| 14 | 118 | Alicia Sacramone Brestyan |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
6.300 9.600 __.___ 15.900 |
0.000 0.000 __.___ 0.000 17* |
6.500 |
6.200 9.500 -0.300 15.400 4 |
46.950 |
|
| 15 | 119 | Bridget Sloan Sharps |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
0.000 0.000 __.___ 0.000 |
6.700 8.900 __.___ 15.600 5 |
6.100 |
6.100 9.050 -0.600 14.550 14 |
45.000 |
|
| 16 | 124 | Shayla Worley Orlando Metro |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
5.500 9.100 __.___ 14.600 |
6.700 8.700 __.___ 15.400 6 |
6.100 |
0.000 0.000 __.___ 0.000 19 |
44.800 |
|
| 17 | 117 | Britney Ranzy Excalibur |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
5.800 9.300 __.___ 15.100 |
5.400 8.300 __.___ 13.700 15 |
0.000 |
5.700 8.700 -0.100 14.300 15 |
43.100 |
|
| 18 | 104 | Darling Hill Will Moor |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
5.500 9.150 __.___ 14.650 |
0.000 0.000 __.___ 0.000 17* |
5.600 |
5.800 9.150 __.___ 14.950 9T |
42.600 |
|
| 19 | 123 | Amber Trani Parkettes |
A: B: ND: Final: Place: |
5.800 7.450 __.___ 13.250 |
0.000 0.000 __.___ 0.000 17* |
6.000 |
5.600 8.650 __.___ 14.250 16T |
41.900 |
|
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10 Comments
June 21, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Shawn and Nastia are both overscored at this point. It’s not about making sure Nastia wins, it’s about making sure the top two spots go to both of them in either order. They are locks for the team but the powers that be don’t want anybody else sneaking into those spots. They can always turn around and say somebody who might sneak in “isn’t ready” at camp but that would not go over well with the media. It’s not treating a world champion badly to make sure she gets an official “guaranteed” spot on the Olympic team. And Nastia is a world champ too, anyway.
June 21, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Sorry I disagree and I will never agree with you.
Regardless it is fixing this competition.
Nastia being rightfully scored would most put her in 3rd place, possibly even as far down as 4. She would still be chosen for this team.
I am 100% against fixing this competition. The rules mean you do not have to fix it.
June 21, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Yeah I think fixing the competition is complete bull. First off, who cares if Shawn or Nastia mess up and Chellsie earns one of the automatics? All three are going to be on the team…
My guess is since Shawn and Nastia have the highest reputations, USAG wants to keep it that way.
June 21, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Exactly AUdgator. We all know Nastia is on this team so fixing scores does nothing but annoy me.lol
June 22, 2008 at 12:39 am
I completely agree with you, everyone knows Shawn and Nastia were gonna be named to the team, so why boost up Nastia’s scores. I don’t think even her best floor routine deserves a 15.7, and her cowboyed dismount on bars is absolutely horrible.
Boosting the start values on two events does not make you an all-arounder. I would prefer seeing Chellsie (who I realllly don’t like) as the second all-around, she at least a true all-around competitor.
June 22, 2008 at 2:15 am
[...] Trials day 1. Johnson in lead but not by enoughTake these routines to the Olympics and Shawn Johnson is leading by a heck of a lot more then .500 so why does USA-Gymnastics keep over scoring Nastia Liukin to the point where even every four year gym fans are noticing? … [...]
June 22, 2008 at 4:02 am
I have a burning question that I haven’t seen addressed on all the posts of over-scoring Nastia- how do we know it won’t happen at the Olympics??? I thought she was generously scored at Worlds, and people always float around comments like, “xxx has experience at Worlds, and international judges just like her.” Are we just presuming judging will be impartial at Worlds without having any reason to believe that it will actually be so?
June 22, 2008 at 4:48 am
“I will never agree with you.”
It’s not my policy. It’s just my opinion of what I think is going on. I did not say that I supported this view nor did I mean to imply that I did.
I do believe that if I was Shawn or Nastia, I wouldn’t feel that being handed an “official” spot on the team was bad treatment. Both of them would have to be idiots if they didn’t already know they were on the team anyway. Everybody else knows it.
I do believe they are both overscored. Why overscore them? In case of a freak fall for Shawn or a not so freak fall for Nastia. 2004 Courtney McCool got the second spot instead of Carly due to the normally solid Carly going splat. Everybody knew Carly was still a lock though and many people felt Courtney was a good choice anyway. At the Olympics, Courtney ended up not contributing like people thought she would. Maybe with a little extra time at camp and no locked spot for CM, somebody else would have been chosen in her place.
My point is, if they make sure Nastia and Shawn get those two spots that they are already going to get, they don’t have to end up taking somebody that they might rather not take. Yeah, it’s fixing the competition but that’s my interpretation of what they’re up to.
June 23, 2008 at 11:11 pm
They should honor the audience, the competitors and the sport by being honest.
June 26, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Nastia is my favorite gymnast but even I can say she was overscored.
If she makes mistakes she should be deducted for them.
This is US trials so I get there will be some over scoring but the crowd kind of gasped when Nastia’s bars routine was scored so high on night two. My section was pretty shocked and they had been cheering loudly for Nastia all night.
There are going to be some upset gymnasts in China when these types of scores do not happen.